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19.05.2004 at 19:25:09
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Riporto un interessante riassunto di un seminario di Ron Carter negli USA, redatto da un volenteroso bassista che ha partecipato. Davvero godibile e interessante!


"As I recall Ron's views on things in general:

On practicing - Practice your lines in the half position. The method books usually tell you to practice your scales, etc., in all keys. This is not good, he feels, since beginners will usually become frustrated with intonation problems, and other positional/technique issues. ”Master the half-position....all the notes you need are there, after all."

On lessons with his students - "You're going to practice and practice. You WILL do your homework. There is NO EXCUSE at all, or it’s over. The bass requires constant commitment, all the time. That's the nature of the instrument." "Besides, I don't have the time for you if you are not fully prepared when you show up."

On stamina - Only practice will give you stamina. "We (with Miles) played 3 sets, Mondays thru Thursdays, and 4 sets on Fridays and Saturdays for years. That helped my stamina". "I can play, and play. There's no way a horn player is going to outplay me. No way." I believe he's right.

On playing without an amp - "This makes no sense. This is going backwards". Without an amp, you have to work harder, dig in deeper, keep your action higher, all of which chokes the tone and causes player fatigue. Microphones won't help much since they are not focused enough and feed back. Use a pickup and concentrate on getting the proper technique. You should only need to play just loud enough to get the subtleties across. "We played without amps years ago and it was torture. I wouldn't want to go back to that ever again. Use your amp."

On recording - "The technology has gotten so much better. Now engineers know how to record the bass. I the old days, I'd hear the playback in the studio and I'd be satisfied. But when the record came out, my bass didn't sound at all like what I played. I was crushed."
"These days, sometimes I'll use a microphone in the studio, sometimes just my pickup (a Realist, BTW). It all depends on the equipment the studio has, and the engineers. You'd be surprised how they can vary."

On strings - "My Labella's give me the tone I need, but each player is different, you have to find what works for you. I've been using the Labella's for fifteen years."

On his bass - Ron uses a tapered snake wood "end pin" which is custom made to his preferred length. "In my mind, it makes the bass sound better. In my mind, at least." "It's quicker to setup up, since I just need to pop it in place. I don't need to worry about the hardware (screws, etc., getting lost). Going from studio to show, there's no time to mess around." 

As for his sound post, Ron has it tapered on both ends, making the post have narrower contact points. He feels this allows the top and bottom plates to move better independently, resulting in better resonance.

To manage the humidity issue, Ron keeps his bass in a closet in his apartment. To absorb excess moisture, he hangs a potato in the closet next to the bass. In dry weather, he keeps a bucket of water there instead. "No Dampits. Too difficult to control”.

Ron's been using the same bass on all recordings since 1959 (that's over 2500 sessions). The C extension (just one capo to bring the string back to E) was custom made and added in 1971. I played Ron's bass, and found his action to be higher than I expected. The Labella’s "look" like they'd have low tension, but with the steel core, they felt kind of like Spirocores to me. 

On the role of the bassist in a band - "The bassist leads the band. Maybe not necessarily in choosing song selection, but they chart the direction during performance." "As a leader, the musicians playing with me follow my vision, but are free to express themselves, musically."

On Rap and Hip-Hop - "Maybe because of my age group, this music doesn't really appeal to me. Too much cursing. But these guys really know how to do loops! The things they do with computers are unbelievable! Not a music stand in sight and they come out with all this stuff!" 
(by Nick Ara - USA)"
  
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Reply #1 - 20.05.2004 at 06:15:22
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Grazie Giorgio per questo articolo che mi ha permesso di conoscere meglio Ron Carter. Sono idee e concetti semplici ma ben espressi. Personalmente potrei essere in disaccordo su qualche punto, tipo l' importanza dello studio delle scale ed arpeggi IN TUTTE le posizioni. Ho scritto qualcosa in merito e sembra che renda abbastanza bene. Quando si studia con grande "gradualità" ed estrema "attenzione" la stonatura ci può stare; i raggazzi/e non sembrano così frustrati quando stonano. L' importante è che ne siano consapevoli. 
Simpatica la parte che riguarda l' incisione in sala. Nel mio piccolo mi sono capitate due situazioni opposte. Nella prima il suono del mio cb. non mi piaceva, ma su Cd sembrava un organo da chiesa. In un altro caso, in studio, subito dopo la registrazione, sembrava bellissimo; poi su Cd una cosa orrenda. Il post produzione rimarrà per me sempre un mistero !!
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Reply #2 - 20.05.2004 at 08:39:02
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Credo che quello che l'Artista dice in un seminario dipenda anche dai partecipanti al seminario.

Relativamente alle posizioni:
Una volta un bassista affermato (jazz) mi disse: se suoni sempre e solo nella mezza e prima posizione ma hai un buon tempo, lavorerai sempre!
Credo fosse specialmennte vero una volta, in un certo genere di Jazz (Mainstream specialmente) per i bassisti Free-lance.

Anni fa incontrai Kenny Kirkland (buonanima) che in una cena mi disse che lui non amava i bassisti che suonano molto acuto, come Eddie Gomez, ma preferiva i contrabbassi che suonavano le note... basse! 

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Reply #3 - 20.05.2004 at 09:17:20
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Sempre interessante comunque leggere testimonianze di questo tipo.
Riguarda a suonare le note ... basse, effettivamente danno più spinta, maggiore omogeneità all'accompagnamento (ogni tanto mi impunto di non muovermi dalla prima mezza posizione/prima posizione ed il suono del gruppo ci guadagna. Forse è anche questione di sensibilità personale e di feeling con certe parti della tastiera piuttosto che altre.
Una volta ricordo ebbi la stessa sensazione anche in altre parti della tastiera, suonando un contrabbasso con corde di budello.
  
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